My Turkish? n THE Tulips of Hatice n Baddin
Hazia asked me about my turkish language learning…idham wondered how long it took me to learn turkish.. i am sure many of u wondered the same as well…
The last time i took a flight to Malaysia many years ago, there was this Japanese girl who stayed in Turkey for 3 months to learn Turkish… her pronounciation n command of turkish at that time was… so-so.. not too good n not too bad.. she had that japanese accent as she spoke turkish….
I think for us Malysians, our tongue is a bit more flexible..maybe perhaps if we r malays, we may have difficulty in pronouncing the letters…ü n ö… but if u r a chinese, that woudnt be a problem at all…coz the *nu* pronounciation in *nu peng you* is the same as ü in turkish…
My personal thought is.. if u really work hard to study the language.. it will take u one month to learn the theory.. an done month to do the practical….it is not so difficult to learn..
Back to the basic question…
*How long did it took met to learn turkish?*
Dont be suprised if my answer is *NEVER*! Hahahahah
I must be joking right? U may wanna say..but.. our Mr. Idham said that *i spoke fluently that it sounded melodious*…
True… i converse in the language… true…i can make conversations in turkish at ease…
But…looking at the grammar… it is far from perfect… looking at the sentences… i may have used the not so suitable n perfect word at times… looking at the pronounciation.. i may have the Malay accent in my turkish..looking at the structure…it may become jumbled up esp when i am tired..
But why?
Didnt i write 2 entries on the turkish language a few months back?
Didnt i finish reading that *turkish grammar* book just to write that second article of the turkish language entry?
Am i not coming from a language major?
Why is it then.. my answer is never? Am i too stupid to learn the language??? Or is it the language is hard to learn..
No. The language is quite easy to learn..
I would call it… *Resistance*…*Subconscious Self protection*
It all goes back to the the early days of my coming here…
It is always assumed that i would have to learn to speak turkish. It was/is only logical of course since i would be living in turkey. I made no objection on that. In our early days, Halil asked me whether i wanna go to a turkish language course.. At that time, we couldnt afford such a course. But if i said yes, he would find a way to send me anyway..i declined his offer..i told him i would learn on my own. ..
Was i lying? Perhaps partially….
Little did i know… being in a new country… being in a cultural shock where everything was so different…created a shell of protection in me…When everything around me spells turkish (the food, the people, the language..everything).. my iner self was crying… *MALAY! MAlaySiAN!*.. I was desperately trying to preserve myself… I couldnt cook Malaysian food for the reason that i didnt /dont know how to cook our food… the ingredients were hard to be found… n on top of everything..everybody eats turkish food.. it would not be logical for me to feed Halil our food which i didnt know how to cook in the first place…
My iner self found language as the solace…the language i speak.. the accent i am familiar with… ..resulting, this self defence against the turkish language…..Türks speak a lot.. they love to socialize… they can chat for hours n hours without getting bored….in those times, my resistance towards the language made me *shut down*….i perfected my skills in turning myself *off* from the sound around me…face smiling… mind somewhere else… sound: off…:0)
Looking back.. it was silly i suppose.. but i think it was my own personal way of NOT getting into everything too much… it was difficult as it already was trying to adjust to a new life… a new culture… new faces….i just couldnt take the burden of the language ..it was getting too much…
Halil bought a turkish book for me to learn.. but that book… i only opened the few pages…
But then…Hatice came. Resisting the language seemed a bit illogical coz she would need to speak the tongue of her father.. the country she is residing. I slowly started to open my mind a bit to accept the turkish language.. (stil resisting inside)… ..no books.. i was just listening to the people speaking n trying to obsorb the meaning…(it was mentally tiring)..
U can say… i learn the turkish language together with Hatice…:0).. And guess what? İf i donot know anything… a word of something in turkish.. ..i will just ask Hatice the meaning of that word. And she knows them all…..she has the perfect turkish accent n pronounciation..
I made it clear to my kids that because i am a foreigner, i may not know the meaning of some words in turkish.. if such a need arise, i will tell them the words in english n later once the father is at home, we will ask him the turkish meaning.. So far our arrangement is working for each of us..n Hatice has another job as well… her job is to teach baddin turkish! Hehehe..she still needs to work in the patience department.. but i wont be suprised at all if one day she decides to be an educator like her father n uncles n auntie n grandpa…. She has the vocation for it….even at the age of 6.
Like i said… i have NEVER learned Turkish yet…. İ learn thru listening to the people.. .. i do not say that i speak turkish until the day i have perfected the components of the language in the production of THE PERFECT language coming out of my tongue…
Yes.. i know Turkish. Yes. I converse in turkish.. but do i Speak it? Nope… and i dont think i will either ever… am just too lazy to sit down n go back to those days where i need to analyse the language components by components….i will let my daughter n son do that :0)
Remember that Hatice n Baddin planted something during the last school holiday? Well… these r the development of the plant… Syikin…these pictures r esp for u (and the rest of u all of course :=)
The early bloomer remşnds me of Hatice… and the late bloomer reminds me of baddin….Slow or late.. it doesnt matter…both bloom in their own sweet time… Enjoy!
P.s Hatice's bed n the book shelve will NOT come on Friday! The Carpenter said that it will only be ready by Monday...!! I feel so sad for hatice... she is counting the days for her bed to come. Now she has to waitsome more!.. Simah..over n out for the Weekend!
The last time i took a flight to Malaysia many years ago, there was this Japanese girl who stayed in Turkey for 3 months to learn Turkish… her pronounciation n command of turkish at that time was… so-so.. not too good n not too bad.. she had that japanese accent as she spoke turkish….
I think for us Malysians, our tongue is a bit more flexible..maybe perhaps if we r malays, we may have difficulty in pronouncing the letters…ü n ö… but if u r a chinese, that woudnt be a problem at all…coz the *nu* pronounciation in *nu peng you* is the same as ü in turkish…
My personal thought is.. if u really work hard to study the language.. it will take u one month to learn the theory.. an done month to do the practical….it is not so difficult to learn..
Back to the basic question…
*How long did it took met to learn turkish?*
Dont be suprised if my answer is *NEVER*! Hahahahah
I must be joking right? U may wanna say..but.. our Mr. Idham said that *i spoke fluently that it sounded melodious*…
True… i converse in the language… true…i can make conversations in turkish at ease…
But…looking at the grammar… it is far from perfect… looking at the sentences… i may have used the not so suitable n perfect word at times… looking at the pronounciation.. i may have the Malay accent in my turkish..looking at the structure…it may become jumbled up esp when i am tired..
But why?
Didnt i write 2 entries on the turkish language a few months back?
Didnt i finish reading that *turkish grammar* book just to write that second article of the turkish language entry?
Am i not coming from a language major?
Why is it then.. my answer is never? Am i too stupid to learn the language??? Or is it the language is hard to learn..
No. The language is quite easy to learn..
I would call it… *Resistance*…*Subconscious Self protection*
It all goes back to the the early days of my coming here…
It is always assumed that i would have to learn to speak turkish. It was/is only logical of course since i would be living in turkey. I made no objection on that. In our early days, Halil asked me whether i wanna go to a turkish language course.. At that time, we couldnt afford such a course. But if i said yes, he would find a way to send me anyway..i declined his offer..i told him i would learn on my own. ..
Was i lying? Perhaps partially….
Little did i know… being in a new country… being in a cultural shock where everything was so different…created a shell of protection in me…When everything around me spells turkish (the food, the people, the language..everything).. my iner self was crying… *MALAY! MAlaySiAN!*.. I was desperately trying to preserve myself… I couldnt cook Malaysian food for the reason that i didnt /dont know how to cook our food… the ingredients were hard to be found… n on top of everything..everybody eats turkish food.. it would not be logical for me to feed Halil our food which i didnt know how to cook in the first place…
My iner self found language as the solace…the language i speak.. the accent i am familiar with… ..resulting, this self defence against the turkish language…..Türks speak a lot.. they love to socialize… they can chat for hours n hours without getting bored….in those times, my resistance towards the language made me *shut down*….i perfected my skills in turning myself *off* from the sound around me…face smiling… mind somewhere else… sound: off…:0)
Looking back.. it was silly i suppose.. but i think it was my own personal way of NOT getting into everything too much… it was difficult as it already was trying to adjust to a new life… a new culture… new faces….i just couldnt take the burden of the language ..it was getting too much…
Halil bought a turkish book for me to learn.. but that book… i only opened the few pages…
But then…Hatice came. Resisting the language seemed a bit illogical coz she would need to speak the tongue of her father.. the country she is residing. I slowly started to open my mind a bit to accept the turkish language.. (stil resisting inside)… ..no books.. i was just listening to the people speaking n trying to obsorb the meaning…(it was mentally tiring)..
U can say… i learn the turkish language together with Hatice…:0).. And guess what? İf i donot know anything… a word of something in turkish.. ..i will just ask Hatice the meaning of that word. And she knows them all…..she has the perfect turkish accent n pronounciation..
I made it clear to my kids that because i am a foreigner, i may not know the meaning of some words in turkish.. if such a need arise, i will tell them the words in english n later once the father is at home, we will ask him the turkish meaning.. So far our arrangement is working for each of us..n Hatice has another job as well… her job is to teach baddin turkish! Hehehe..she still needs to work in the patience department.. but i wont be suprised at all if one day she decides to be an educator like her father n uncles n auntie n grandpa…. She has the vocation for it….even at the age of 6.
Like i said… i have NEVER learned Turkish yet…. İ learn thru listening to the people.. .. i do not say that i speak turkish until the day i have perfected the components of the language in the production of THE PERFECT language coming out of my tongue…
Yes.. i know Turkish. Yes. I converse in turkish.. but do i Speak it? Nope… and i dont think i will either ever… am just too lazy to sit down n go back to those days where i need to analyse the language components by components….i will let my daughter n son do that :0)
Remember that Hatice n Baddin planted something during the last school holiday? Well… these r the development of the plant… Syikin…these pictures r esp for u (and the rest of u all of course :=)
The early bloomer remşnds me of Hatice… and the late bloomer reminds me of baddin….Slow or late.. it doesnt matter…both bloom in their own sweet time… Enjoy!
P.s Hatice's bed n the book shelve will NOT come on Friday! The Carpenter said that it will only be ready by Monday...!! I feel so sad for hatice... she is counting the days for her bed to come. Now she has to waitsome more!.. Simah..over n out for the Weekend!
Happy International Ladies Day!
Thank You for hopping by...Hope to see u again the next time.
22 Comments:
Then, you must have been a very good listener.
The tulips are gorgeous - just like your kids :)
Simah dear,
It's ok to be a late bloomer. Sometimes it is better. ;-)
Sigh.. you are amazing. If I were you, dah pengsan. Tak larat buat kerja rumah mcm you.
asal orang yg mendengar simah cakap turki tak melopong kira ok lah tu hehe
I think you'll pick up as u go along rite?the tulip is beautiful.
Happy int woman's day too.
You remind me of my malaysian-married-arab friends who speak arabic like locals, they got the language just like you...from listening to their surrounding...
you are doing just great simah :D:D
Firstly, TQ for a such a panjang lebar answer, despite rumah yg tengah tunggang-langgang tu:)
Tapi I sorang aje ke yg pening baca entry ni? Maybe coz I haven't mastered a foreign language kot. U converse in Turkish but u don't speak Turkish? LOL! Kat rumah u still cakap Turki kan? Your kids panggil u 'Anne' instead of 'Mak'.
Anyway, u are amazing! U've got d guts and willpower, definitely can survive in a foreign land:)
I love the tulips!:D
Simah first of all...Happy International Ladies Day...
You must be a good listerner & of course a good learner...kira okaylah tu kalau anak2 & orang sekeliling boleh faham apa yang sima cakapkan...heheheh
Tulips tu cantik sgt...
Happy Int'nal Ladies to you..!!
he he.. me fail la belajar vietnamese language ni. macam siam ada, chinese pun ada, luckily they pick up english cepat.. senang keje ku..
me kong kong (blurrr)la vietnamese language ni.. sikit2 je utk survive masa shopping..
best la tulip tuh...lawa sesangat.
oh...bleh jadi turkish slang utagha tak??? Hehehe ;)
Tera la bleh belajar through orang cakap. tabik spring. Kalau saya...uwa...nangis.
Wah..tulip you dah naik ye..Tulip I satu pun takde lagi.
Anyway, NAMI kat sini belajar gaelic, which is bahasa Irish. But kat sini tak spoken that language, just for academic purpose je, so I tak bother le nak belajar.
Must be hard ye for you when you first lived there...nothing of Malaysian at all..and had to learn Turk resepi and culture.
Cayalah Simah
Simah,nanti bila kita jumpa bolehlah tengok siapa punya Turkish lagi teror!Mungkin jadi rojak kot,melayu+ing.+turkish+nogori!Simah boleh faham joke merekakah?Kalau faham oklah tu.Lagi satu kalau cakap Turkish berlagu-lagu tu maknanya Aferin kardes!
Well done Simah
Nora
he he he....masalah sikit bab bahasa ni, belajar Arab 5 tahun pun macam tak dak maknanya...sokmo menggigil bila ustaz menyoal uiskkk
Simah, I got alot to learn from you laaaa, I'm still resisting inside and outside when it comes to learning turkish...
mama sarah
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bila left right semua orang cakap non stop memang nak tak nak kena belajar hehehehe *by force learning* :0)
mcm masa i duduk kat sarawak dulu..i duduk 7 bulan ja..tapi i rasa i dah ter biasa dengan bahasa iban dan kedayan...kalau lama lagi kat situ memang rasanya i boleh cakap dah slang diaorang
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ms istanbul
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ith lots of love, children definitely bloom... one way or another :0)
heheheh u ada maid buat apa nak kemas.. i ni kalau kaya lama dah hire maid.. tapi kerja kat rumah ni.. kalau orang lain buat tak rasa pulak like a real housewife kan? nak la rasa mcm real housewife :0)
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zino
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yg melopong tu selalunya orang mesia heheheh
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kak elle
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thanks :0)
i memang dah lama pick up turkish dah.. cuma the technical stuffs tu aja yg tak master.. malassssssssssss hehehe
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loveujordan
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thanks 4 the vote of confidence... :0) asalkan i boleh hidup kat sini cukup la.. as long orang boleh paham.. grammar tunggang langgang pun kira buat dunno ja la hehehe
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hazia
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memang rumah i tunggang langgang!! hhaahaha NEXT Question?
memang our life kat sini semuanya turkish.. cuma my kids diaorang mcm ni.. kalau nak cakap english.. go to ur anne.. nak cakap turkish..go to ur baba.. nak cakap turkish tunggang langgang.. go to anne! hahahah
guts + willpower = mental problem heheh
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kak lady
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saya pun suka tulip ni... :0)
ghehehe betul tu akak.. asalkan diaorang paham cukup la :0)
tapi kalau saya nak mengutuk selalunya saya switch off ke malay ja hehehehe
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mulan
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bahasa vietnam masa shopping tu pentinggggggg esp bila nak tanya *how muc?* boleh murah sikit? :0)
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zakiah
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bahasa turki slang utara? hahahahaha tergeliat la lidah weiiiii :0)
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k.d
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gaelic? mesti interesting kan dia dapat belajar..
memang semua orang cakap normal english ka kat sana?
tulip tu bunga dah luruh dah.. cepat betul dia layu...nasib baik sempat tangkap masa dia bloom..
masa awal datang turki dulu memang semua kena tabah gila.. tapi tu la..as time goes by.. dah terbiasa.. :0)
mcm u jugak.. masa baru duduk sana mesti susah... sekarang mesti dah biasakan?
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kak nora
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we will see heheheh nanti bila kita jumpa jom kita try semua mixture tu hahahaha bizim kocamız mutlaka kafa yerlar! hahaha
joke diaorang? selalunya saya boleh paham.. cuma kekadang tu kalau joke dia culturally influenced kena tanya jugak kat halil kenapa diaorang ketawa :0)akak paham tak?
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alinlai
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hang pandai bahasa arab? wei...caya laaaaaa tabik tabik... cuba la hang pi ronda kat negara arab n cuba cakap arab kat sana?
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lah
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hahaha u ni lagi teruk dari i!! hahaha
tak pa la.. there is this one acquaintance of ours (turk)..dulu dia kerja kat malaysia (professor) i think dalam 5 tahun kot.. tapi sepatah bahasa melayu pun dia tak tau!! hahah ni kira mcm u jugak la..
as long as u boleh survive yeterki.. :0)
Firstly... those are beautiful flowers.
Secondly, I am amazed with someone that capable of (if not mastering it altogether) speaking other languages apart from the common ones like English, Arab, Spanish, French and what not. Is it me or Turkish really is not that popular among other populations of the world?
And am pretty sure, you are somehow learning it by heart and I supposed things learned by heart will stay with you to becoming your second nature.
P/S: Read your previous entries too. Pheww... I have to do a lot of catch up after close to 2 weeks break from blogosphere
Simah dear,
Laa, bila masa pulak I ada maid ni? Kaya I! Cheapest maid in London (Filipino) would cost me at least £800 per mth!
I have a part-time babysitter but I'm paying her based on market rate. Works out half of the cost. kemas rumah is not part of the deal but when there are only 2 girls, how much mess can you make?
ps: my lil girl is a cleanliness freak! she loves to tidy stuffs. That saves me too. hehhehe
simah....:) ur turkish was good...really really good...much better than my arabic..hehehe
wow...nice pics of the tulips...:)
i am back in jeddah. LiL says thank you so much or the gifts...hehhe...i siap dah ambek gambar nak masuk dlm blog. *wink*
idham
Jgnlah merendah diri. Hebat apa dah boleh communicate dgn masyarakat sana. All this while, I tot mesti best you kawin foreigner, dok obersi blahblah...reading btw the lines - if I were in ur position, I die la...BTW, ur main problem is just that you're in denial! rad
idham
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*wink*.. dah baca dah blog u.. hahaha.. nasibbaik i tak kena kutuk dengan kak lil.. :0)
ok la... i admit..my turkish is quite good..if i dont need to write it down of course heheheh :0)
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rad
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la.. kalau cakap turkish tapi grammar tunggang langang memang tak boleh consider i *cakap* turki la..i nikan lang grad.. everything must be perfect tapi i malas nak memperfectkan my turkish.. tak ado kojo eden..:0)
Lambat sikit baca N3 yg ini..Saya disini pronounce BI dah mcm ckp BM coz ckp Deutsch mcm baca BM..hihihi faham tak?
oh...how lovely!! by the window sill lagi.... indahnya...
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